JuanViejo2, I just noticed I had a typo on the date. It was aired on the 19th not the 18th. Thanks for hosting these.
I gave Steve Hassan the links, too, and he told me he'll send them out on his twitter feed. Way cool.
you read that right.
just finished talking to steve a half hour ago.. november 19 at 10pm est, steve hassan's interview will air on cult free radio on ustream.
i will also have a co-host that evening to discuss bite mind control and steve's interview.. https://www.facebook.com/cultfreeradio.
JuanViejo2, I just noticed I had a typo on the date. It was aired on the 19th not the 18th. Thanks for hosting these.
I gave Steve Hassan the links, too, and he told me he'll send them out on his twitter feed. Way cool.
the blood issue has been an ongoing arguement between the roomie and me.
not heated, by any means, but she keeps qouting back established wts reasoning on the subject.
"it's feeding, jason.
If taking blood is the worst thing one can do to defile a body, that would make it worse than smoking, no? Why then is smoking a disfellowshipping offense but taking blood is not? Explain that, true believers.
Not sure who's scariest, Daniel or the crying hippie. I'll call it a tie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hntezntyv60.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlnttwkadag&feature.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2db9jmvzri.
all magazines are always at jw.org
do you remember the magazine and the author of this magazine, any old timers know who the backers were?
i was five years old, when the old man was the editor or author of this religious magazine.
did you ever talk to any of the followers of this movement?
The sad thing about this religion is that subsequent to its reform toward a mainstream Christian religion, a pretty good number of their members broke off to form a more traditionalist conservative cult-like sect again. Some people just don't want to be free.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-15834523.
Why do you let mAlice troll you for six pages? Seriously people. Don't feed the trolls.
wasn't even looking for something like this, was just looking for some good metal music to listen to while i did my college work.
"he was raised a jw" he says.. .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwdbiajbebk.
They should have known better than to screw with Captain James Tiberius Kirk.
first time i got a chance to read his book, "combatting cult mind control" and was interested to see if jw's fell into the cult mold.
my opinion after carefully reading and having left the witnesses after almost 30 years is... no, they don't.
however, i would add that they wish they were but are simply too big and unwieldy to really pull it off.
The point of the book is that a group doesn't need to attempt ALL of the mind control tactics nor be successfull at all of them in order to fit the definition of a cult. If they do some of them, they're a cult. So seeing exceptions among JWs and the Watchtower doesn't make them non-cult. NO single cult meets EVERY bit of criteria.
The author of the book, Steve Hassan himself calls JWs a cult, based on his professional assessment and knowledge of Lifton, Singer, BITE, and how the JWs employ the methods that research has laid out.
Randy's article at freeminds.org is excellent.
You can listen to Steve Hassan and a discussion of this exact issue on the latest Cult Free Radio. Show #011 is the one with Steve Hassan. I also discussed the issue in show #001.
Video:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/cult-free-radio
http://www.youtube.com/user/MadSweeney1914
Audio Only:
i believe today's witnesses lack zeal, resolve, "love" of the "truth"......just to name a few things.. years ago, witnesses were excited to knock on doors and tell people they were gonna die if they didn't accept paradise.. now, when you see jws in service, they all look zombied out.. it's a slowly dying religion that will last probably forever like an ancient rotted out tree..
Decades ago they thought they had it all figured out. Today they try not to think too much at all.
Great thread.
the blood issue has been an ongoing arguement between the roomie and me.
not heated, by any means, but she keeps qouting back established wts reasoning on the subject.
"it's feeding, jason.
The Borg blood doctrine has nothing to do with concern for the health of the rank and file JWs, either spiritually or physically. It is entirely about power and control. It weeds out those who are willing to think and act for themselves, leaving behind only compliant, obedient sheep.
It is one of the most tragic cult traits the Watchtower employs.